Lead Ban Chronicles – Information For CA Hunters To Speak Up About The Lead Ban Expansion (AB711)

June 20, 2013

I got this release this morning, and thought it was worth sharing.  Please excuse the formatting, as it was a cut-and-paste from the email, and I didn’t have time to dig through and fix all the extra spaces and such.

You have a chance (actually 3 X 7 chances) to voice   your objection against the lead ammo ban bill, AB 711, which is scheduled for   a vote in the California Senate Approriations Committee on Monday, June 24th.   Please act before Monday by calling, faxing and emailing the seven senators   on the Committee.Here is what the California Rifle and Pistol Association has to say about this bill.

This bill threatens to ban  hunting with lead ammo and force hunters to use expensive non lead   ammo!  Don’t let California become the only state with a law prohibiting   the use of lead ammunition for ALL hunting! Your contact to the senators on the Senate Appropriations Committee should be before Monday to request a NO   vote on this bill.

AB 711 proposes a complete ban on the use of lead ammunition for   hunting throughout California.  Currently a lead ammunition ban is in   place for the California condor zone only.  The condor zone lead ban   prohibits the use of lead ammunition for the taking of big game and nongame   birds or mammals in the condor zone. AB 711 intends to expand the ban on the   use of lead ammunition to all upland game hunting (including species such as   quail, dove, pheasant, and rabbits) and to expand the lead ammunition ban  across the entire state for all hunting.  If AB 711 passes, only non lead projectiles could be used for any kind of hunting or depredation.

AB 711 is designed to circumvent the regulatory process   delegated by the Legislature to the Fish and Game Commission. In January   2008, AB 821 put the condor zone lead ban in place.  Since that time,   blood lead levels in the condors has continued to rise.  This is despite a 99% hunter compliance rate with the non lead regulations as reported by the Department of Fish and Wildlife.

The Fish and Game Commission is currently reviewing the science related to the use of lead and its impacts on wildlife and is engaged in   forming a working committee to review the lead projectile issue. The   Commission and the Department of Fish and Wildlife are the subject matter experts for wildlife issues and should be permitted to continue to carry out   their role in managing California’s wildlife.

Below is the list of Senators who will vote on this   Monday – if you use the listed email addresses you should be able to get   through to each of them. Even though the senators on this committee may not   be from your district they represent all Californians when sitting on   committees. It doesn’t hurt to call, fax and email to make sure your message   gets through. There are only seven of them so be sure to contact everyone of   them today!

Senate Appropriations Committee


Senator Kevin de León (Chair)
Phone: (916) 651-4022
Fax: (916) 327-8817

Senator Mimi Walters   (Vice Chair)
Phone: (916) 651-4037
Fax: (916) 445-9754

Senator Ted Gaines
Phone: (916) 651-4001
Fax: (916) 324-2680

Senator Jerry Hill
Phone: (916) 651-4013
Fax: (916) 324-0283


Senator Ricardo Lara
Phone: (916) 651-4033
Fax: (916)-327-9113

Senator Alex Padilla
Phone:  (916) 651-4020
Fax:  (916) 324-6645

Senator Darrell   Steinberg
Phone:  (916) 651-4006
Fax:  (916) 323-2263


6 Responses to “Lead Ban Chronicles – Information For CA Hunters To Speak Up About The Lead Ban Expansion (AB711)”

  1. Jean on June 20th, 2013 22:37

    You made tomorrow’s job a little easier for me. Thank you.

    With all of the Ca anti-gun owner laws, it sometimes makes me wonder why the legislators seem to want to make criminals out of the people who pay for their way of life.

    Sorry, I forgot that Sacramento is a “Common Sense Free Zone”.

  2. Phillip on June 21st, 2013 14:39

    You’re welcome, Jean!

    I am, honestly, amazed at the legislation that’s floating around Sacramento right now. AB711 looks downright benevolent in comparison. I’m not surprised that these laws were proposed, but that they’ve managed to get the traction to go as far as they have… it’s a pretty clear indication of the level of ignorance (about guns and ammo) and the level of anti-gun rhetoric that is driving lawmakers across California. Unfortunately, this is probably a solid reflection of a good portion of the voting public as well. It’s going to make for an uphill battle, and I’m sorry for those of you who are stuck in the middle of it.

    So good luck.

  3. Denis K. Rodriquez on June 26th, 2013 03:44

    The potential of a complete ban on hunting isn”t being discussed at all in the legislature, but that is a very likely scenario if this bill passes. Another federal law bans armor-piercing ammunition, unless it is designed “primarily for sporting purposes.” All non-lead ammunition is also armor-piercing, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), has not granted any of the petitions from ammunition companies for non-lead “sporting” ammunition. While the ATF hasn”t currently cracked down on non-lead ammunition sales, there are fears that anti-gun, anti-hunting pressure would persuade the ATF to do that in California, effectively banning hunting.

  4. Phillip on June 26th, 2013 15:17

    Actually, Denis, it’s a highly UNLIKELY scenario and has absolutely nothing to do with the passage or failure of AB711. This whole armor-piercing armor issue is a red herring, designed and propagated to build on the current environment of fear in hunters and gun owners.

    The petitions for inclusion are primarily for bullets designed for firearms that were not traditional designed for sporting purposes, such as the new 5.7mm handgun ammunition. Barnes, on the other hand, just released another bullet through the process. Is there bureaucratic backlog? Of course. But does it indicate nefarious intent on the part of the BATF? No.

  5. Eliseo O. French on July 2nd, 2013 22:29

    In hunting and shooting, lead is no stranger to regulation. Waterfowlers have been using steel shot instead of lead since 1991, but the National Shooting Sports Foundation stresses that banning traditional ammunition should only happen with thorough scientific research that shows an adverse impact on a wildlife population, the environment, or on human health. Recent studies show that, aside from waterfowl and possibly the California condor, any negative impacts of lead ammunition on wildlife populations are unfounded.

  6. Leila D. Vaughan on July 8th, 2013 13:01

    Their “Fact” – The federal law banning armor piercing ammunition has been on the books since 1968 and contains a specific exemption for “sporting purposes.” The law has never been interpreted as prohibiting ammunition for hunting purposes, and ATF has made no effort to interfere with either the longstanding federal waterfowl ban on lead ammunition or California’s recent condor habitat ban.