Lead Ban Chronicles – AB711 Is Now A Law

October 12, 2013

Lead Ban ChroncilesWell, he did it.

Governor Brown signed AB711 on Friday, 10/11 to make it officially the law. 

Here’s his justification for signing,  I recommend giving it a gander:  AB_711_2013_Signing_Message.pdf0


6 Responses to “Lead Ban Chronicles – AB711 Is Now A Law”

  1. Dann on October 13th, 2013 08:41

    With the stroke of a pen, Governor Brown has probably destroyed upland game hunting in CA and reduced the number of big game hunters by a least a third.

    Quite a few heirloom firearms will never again see the light of day. The old barrels just won’t handle steel shot. The .410 shotgun is dead for hunting in CA, since there isn’t any lead free for it. The 28 gauge is $25 a box and even the 12 gauge is around $13 a box. I like dove and quail hunting, but not at those prices.

    You won’t even to be able to shoot gophers or ground squirrels with your .22 unless it’s lead free. Your choice of ammo for that, exactly one, Winchester (terrible by all reports), and that’s $8 a box.

    For those of us that have hunted the condor zone for years, it’s always been difficult to find lead free, now it’ll be impossible.

    If you don’t live in CA, take heed. This was a straight up HSUS agenda item, and they are coming to your state. Fight them hard and early.

  2. Phillip on October 13th, 2013 14:17

    Dann, while it certainly sucks that Brown signed a useless and burdensome bill into law, it isn’t quite as bad as you’ve painted it.

    First of all, I know a lot of hunters are angry right now and the rhetoric is as negative as it will ever be. However, we did go through the same thing when they banned lead for waterfowling, and it turns out that hunters will hunt. Will some guys quit? Probably. But I’m pretty sure it won’t be 1/3 of big game hunters, much less utter decimation of upland hunters.

    The law includes an exception that covers any gun for which there is no lead-free ammunition, so all those antique firearms and wildcats are technically covered. Unfortunately, you’re correct that a good alternative for .22LR is hard to find. So far, your options are CCI and Winchester. The CCI is practically useless for hunting. The Winchester is better, although I’ve found that it won’t cycle in my Walther P-22 or in my old Marlin 60.

    I’ll be putting up a post tomorrow that will attempt cover these concerns and more.

  3. Dann on October 14th, 2013 08:32


    I hope your right but it’ll be interesting to see the numbers on license sales in the next few years. Once the lead ban hits dove season, I think places like Nyland and El Centro are going to take a huge hit in the pocket book.

    If you talk to the merchants in those two towns you’ll hear that the dove opener is the single biggest money event in their fiscal year.

  4. Phillip on October 14th, 2013 21:20

    Dann, you’re right about that… time will tell, and nothing else will do.

  5. David on October 14th, 2013 09:02

    I am glad that he vetoed the “assault weapon” classification of semi-auto rifles with a detachable magazine.

    As far as the lead ammo issue, I am hoping with increased demand we will see some price breaks.

  6. Phillip on October 14th, 2013 21:22

    Dave, prices will likely moderate over time. Unfortunately, it’s probably going to be a case of lead prices increasing while copper stabilizes.